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Masters of Scale

The race no one can win: AI’s anti-human crisis, with Aza Raskin

Masters of Scale

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Business, Jeff Berman, Startups, Reid Hoffman, Management, Diversity & Inclusion, Mindset, Bob Safian, Entrepreneurship

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Big Tech is moving fast on AI. But who's watching out for the rest of us? Aza Raskin, co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, has spent years sounding the alarm about where the race to build powerful AI is actually taking us. He joins Rapid Response to expose the incentive structures quietly pushing Silicon Valley toward dangerous territory, and to make the case that it's not too late to change course. Raskin also unpacks the significance of Pope Leo XIV's sweeping new encyclical on AI, what China's AI priorities reveal about the global race, and why the hidden assumptions baked into AI systems may be the most underestimated risk of all.

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0:00.0

Founders ship faster on deal. Set up payroll for any country and minutes, hire anyone anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling.

0:10.9

Deal takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance so your team can grow without borders.

0:19.2

It's why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies trust

0:21.8

deal to move fast. Visit deal.com slash M-O-S. That's D-E-E-E-L.com slash M-O-S.

0:31.6

Every founder knows the idea is not the hard part. It's turning that idea into something a team can actually execute at

0:40.1

scale. AI and Jira does the invisible work, the status chasing, the duplicate tasks management,

0:47.3

the lost context, so your team stays in flow and focused on what moves the needle. Every company wants a game changer.

0:55.5

What you actually need is a team changer,

0:58.1

project management for the next era of teamwork.

1:01.3

Visit atlasian.com slash Jira.

1:03.7

That's A-T-L-A-S-S-I-A-N dot com slash J-I-R-A. Okay. ian.com slash j i r a as soon as you can automate coding you're heading towards the recursive self-reprovement

1:20.8

loop nukes don't make better nukes but ai does make better ai and whoever gets their first

1:27.2

theoretically gets a runaway lead

1:29.5

where their AI gets smarter and you get this explosion of intelligence, you can now outhack

1:36.4

all of your enemies, potentially shut their AIs down.

1:40.3

It means you can like have technological and weapons development dominance. And that thing could happen very quickly.

1:46.3

So that's the race.

2:02.1

That's Aza Raskin, co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology.

2:06.7

You may know Aza as co-host of podcast Your Undivided Attention or from the documentaries The Social Dilemma and the AI Doc.

2:10.8

Alongside co-founder Tristan Harris,

2:13.6

Aza has become a leading voice on the dangers of AI acceleration.

2:18.4

And let's just say that we've never run a more important episode than today's.

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