How to get better at money, with Carrie Joy Grimes
Masters of Scale
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🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
Money = Math + Feelings. That’s the equation at the heart of Carrie Joy (CJ) Grimes’ nonprofit WorkMoney, which has scaled to more than 9 million members since it started during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic. Grimes joins host Jeff Berman to reveal the strategies that can improve not just how much money we have, but our relationship with it.
CJ’s book: The Joy of Money
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, Jeff Berman here. Exciting news. Applications are now open for the Masters of Scale Summit. |
| 0:08.7 | It's happening October 20th through October 22nd in San Francisco, and it is a really special event. |
| 0:16.5 | Please join our curated community of founders, innovators, and leaders shaping the future. |
| 0:22.6 | Expect ideas that challenge your assumptions and connections that move your business and maybe even your life forward. |
| 0:30.2 | It's an experience that can change literally everything. |
| 0:34.3 | Apply now at Mastersofscale.com slash Apply 26. That's Mastersofscale.com slash apply 26. |
| 0:44.7 | Every founder knows the idea is not the hard part. It's turning that idea into something a team can |
| 0:51.5 | actually execute at scale. |
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| 1:29.6 | Humans will never be more intelligent than AI. |
| 1:31.1 | There's going to be two types of companies. |
| 1:34.7 | Those are great at AI and those that went out of business because they weren't. |
| 1:38.9 | How do we build a future that is human-centered? |
| 1:41.2 | I'm Rana El-Cowabee. |
| 1:47.0 | And on my podcast, Pioneers of AI, we answer that question and so many more. |
| 1:54.0 | As an AI scientist, entrepreneur, and investor, I know what it takes to build AI that works for everyone. |
| 1:57.7 | Every week, I sit down with the pioneers shaping our future. And we take you behind the scenes of the AI that's transforming our lives. |
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