If we allow ourselves to spend more time with the questions, with the things that are we are holding so close to us and this idea of, you know, where we will be and how we will be and with whom.

If we just allow ourselves to just be there for a little bit longer, I do think that we ended up with more choices, more opportunities.

Oh, let it out, Hello, welcome back to the podcast. This is Let It Out. I'm your host, Katie Dale Bow. Back on the podcast this week, part two of my conversation with Mari Orkin. If you listened to last week, you know this. If you're here for the first time, welcome. Maybe go back to last week

where I have the first part of my long-form conversation with contemplative educator, mindfulness,

and compassion, teacher and writer. Mari and I became friends fast, and we discussed that story,

how we met. In last week's episode.

Her work is the intersection between Western psychotherapy, Buddhist psychology, contemplative practices, and she holds a masters of arts.

And so her work as an artist and a teacher and a mother and a therapist and a meditation

teacher works in this really holistic way where she has all these practices and tools

and makes her this grounded, connected, intuitive person who I just connected with so deeply and had a very long conversation with and decided to, instead of cut it down, release it in two parts. So last week we spoke about motherhood and boundaries and grief and her story growing up in Brazil and in coming to L.A. And this week's

conversation, which is part two of that, you know, that's where it really comes alive. I always say

this, but about 45 minutes in, I think we can forget we're recording. Sometimes it takes an hour.

Sometimes it takes longer. And sometimes I'm like, I can get it in and a half an hour. Sometimes that doesn't happen. This was definitely a long

conversation. And I think this part was really what the groundwork from part one, which I think is

also great. And you should go back and listen to. She tells some great stories. But this part,

we have a really interesting conversation about acceptance and accepting what is. We talk about

a thing that happened in my life and she gives me some interesting advice about that

that I've really taken on since. And it was a lesson in

acceptance and knowing. And we talk about that and Buddhism and love and friendship and social

media and cooking. And of course, the quickfire questions at the end of this part. So if you

like this episode, let us know. I'll give you the secret emoji at the end of this part. So if you like this episode, let us know I'll give you the secret emoji at the

end of this week's episode so you can comment it on Mari and I social media and let us know you're

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