If we are able to sit with what we're feeling, if we're able to sit and hold the very difficult feelings that we're feeling, then we are able to sit with other people's difficult feeling too. Let it out. Let it out. Let it out.

Let it out. Hi, welcome back. You're listening to Let It Out with me, Katie Dilbao. Today we have another two-part situation. I have been hosting this podcast for a while, and the episodes are long. They've always been long.

And recently, I started splitting them up into two parts. Not every week. Sometimes episodes are shorter, or sometimes they're long and robust, where there's content throughout that I would want to listen to in parts. And of course,

in the episodes, they're long, you can listen to it, stopping and starting. But this week,

I'm dosing it out for you, half this week and half next week. So I would love your feedback on

if you like the episodes dosed out in this way,

or if you would prefer them to be all in one shot so you can, you know, make the call on how you

want to listen to it. Let me know. My guest this week is Mari, a contemplative educator,

mindfulness, and compassion, teacher, and writer. Her work lives in the space where

contemplative practices, Buddhist psychology, and Western psychotherapy intersect. Marie has a

master's in arts. She's a certified contemplative psychotherapist and certified meditation teacher,

and she works with both individuals and

corporate groups and teams like Apple and Loom. And she moves people through both exploration and

integration. And I really enjoy speaking to her as you'll hear in just a few moments. We tell the whole story of

how we met where this was just a, you know, kind of friendship at first meeting situation. And

we get into that in part one. And in part one, we also talk about her being an educator. We talk

about meditating and mindfulness, boundaries on

motherhood and boundaries, which she's very good at, presence and parenting. We get into existing

and allowing yourself to take up space as you are today, being an artist, identifying as an artist, growing up in Brazil, catching ideas,

and the connection between mindfulness and creativity, which I thought was really interesting.

She tells the story of meeting her husband and marrying him in a week and moving to L.A.,

which is a great antidote.

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