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All right, everybody, it's Michael Shermer.

It's time for another episode of the Michael Shermer show.

My guest today is Dr. Nicholas Wright. He's a member of the Royal

Colleges of Physicians and a PhD neuroscientist who researches the brain, technology, and

security, which includes military security, a University College London, Georgetown University,

and the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C., where he also advises the Pentagon Joint Staff. I'll have to ask

about that. He works with governments and the private sector. He's worked as a neurology doctor

in London and Oxford, and has published numerous academic papers which have been covered

by the BBC and the New York Times. He's appeared on CNN and the BBC and regularly contributes

to outlets like foreign affairs, foreign policy, the Atlantic, and Slate. Here's his new book,

Warhead, How the Brain Shapes War and War Shapes the Brain.

Nicholas, I read this book in Hawaii on vacation.

My wife was like, that's a cheery book to be reading on vacation.

Well, it ends on an optimistic note.

That's true.

So hopefully you said that, yeah.

That's true, yeah.

All right.

So before we dive into your book, which I really loved, it's a great read.

So interesting.

I'm the perfect host for you because I've watched all those World War II documentaries.

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