The Psychology of the Menendez Bros (Chapter 7: Today)
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
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🗓️ 9 June 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, deserving listeners. This is our final chapter on our deep dive on the psychology of the Menendez brothers and the whole case and all the various different twists and turns and the debates. |
| 0:11.3 | So this is our final chapter. |
| 0:14.7 | I think it's seven. |
| 0:15.7 | And let's get to it. This is the Psychology in Seattle podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kerkonda. I'm a therapist and I'm also a professor. |
| 0:22.4 | My name is Umberto Castaneda and I exterminate robotic termites. |
| 0:26.3 | So take it away, Burrell. |
| 0:28.1 | So last time you asked me a question that I couldn't answer, but I since spent countless hours researching the topic and I'm now the world's foremost expert. The question of whatever happened |
| 0:39.7 | to Dr. O'Zille after the case, Dr. Oseill was stripped of his license. Really? He lost his |
| 0:47.7 | license. That's encouraging. I would not have thought that. I know, right? Because even though |
| 0:52.2 | that's the right thing that should happen, I think. |
| 0:54.3 | Yeah. That often doesn't happen, strangely. So, okay. Do we know who made, I mean, I can imagine |
| 1:01.5 | that it was the client slash girlfriend who made the complaint, but. Well, are you sitting down? |
| 1:05.8 | because the California Board of Psychology determined that wrongfully, Dr. Oseal shared information about |
| 1:12.1 | the Menendous brothers with Smith, who was the girlfriend slash client, right? And since it was a |
| 1:19.6 | client, they also accused them of sexual misconduct. So basically, what you would want to have |
| 1:25.0 | happened happened. It's the two counts were, hey, you shared information with this client of yours, |
| 1:30.5 | and then also you were sexually misconducting with this client. |
| 1:34.3 | So, yeah. |
| 1:35.1 | In 2017, he did an interview with some magazine or something. |
| 1:39.6 | He said, I did not surrender my license due to the accusation, |
| 1:43.9 | which implies I gave up my practice because |
| 1:45.9 | of things I did allege the original accusation. Instead, I had phased out of my practice because |
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