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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

The Psychology of the Menendez Bros (Chapter 6: The Trial)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Dr Kirk and Humberto explore the Menendez Bros case. (Intro)

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June 6, 2025

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0:00.0

Hey, deserving listeners, this is the next chapter in our deep dive on the psychology of the Menendez brothers and the case.

0:09.6

I knew nothing about this going into it, and so everything that Berto's telling me is completely new to me.

0:15.7

And I have been shocked, and we're now at the point where Berto's going to reveal to me the result of

0:23.1

the criminal trial and I don't know which way it's going to go. So let's find out today. This is

0:30.4

the Psychology in Seattle podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kirkonda. I'm a therapist and a professor.

0:35.0

Who are you, Berto? My name is Umberto Castaneda, and I manufacture

0:39.0

the hardest buttons to button. Yeah, so where we last left off, both Lyle and Eric had testified

0:44.5

to this horrific long-term abuse that they said that they had endured. So where we're at,

0:51.7

the defense's claim is that one week before the murders, or roughly one week

0:57.8

before the murders, a huge argument, and then Kitty, which you didn't know this bit,

1:03.0

Kitty rips off Lyle's to pay during the argument. And at this moment, Eric didn't know that

1:08.7

Lyle wore a to pay. And, you know, people wear to pays.

1:12.1

People go bald and stuff.

1:13.2

But you would think this would be a big moment, right?

1:15.9

Like you have your brother, you look up to your brother, your brother's two years older.

1:19.3

And this whole time, he's been wearing a to pay.

1:22.1

He never told you.

1:23.1

So it's a big deal.

1:24.1

And also in the argument, like the mom's so angry that she rips off.

1:29.1

By the way, that must be really painful, too, right? Because I'm imagining that stuff's

1:33.4

like glued in. Like, I don't know, but it just sounds painful. All right. So to comment just a

1:39.1

little bit on the fact that Eric didn't know, because it sounds like Eric and Lyle were pretty close.

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