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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

The Psychology of the Menendez Bros (Chapter 3: The Murders)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Dr Kirk and Humberto explore the Menendez Bros case.

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00:00 Writing about murder 05:17 The day before the murders 11:03 The murders 25:08 The 911 call

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May 30, 2025

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0:00.0

Hey, Desirving listeners, this is chapter three in our deep dive on the Menendez brothers,

0:04.5

in which I know nothing about the story, and Berto knows everything about it, and he's walking

0:09.8

me through it and shocking me as I go. So let's continue with that. Where do you say, Burdo?

0:13.9

Let's do it. This is the Psychology in Seattle podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kirk Honda, I'm a therapist and I'm also a professor. My name is Umberto Castaneda and I discover new colors.

0:22.7

That led us up to the murders themselves.

0:25.7

We're basically, because remember, it was 1988, it was 1988, the robberies happen, the house

0:32.2

robberies, they have to move again.

0:34.0

This is when they moved to Beverly Hills.

0:36.0

And Eric starts therapy because, hey,

0:39.7

what's wrong with this kid, you know? So Lyle wasn't required to go to therapy? Okay,

0:44.6

because he wasn't convicted. Yeah. Remember, Eric took the fall. Okay. So late 1988,

0:52.1

something interesting happens. Eric has a friend named Craig and the two of them want to write a screenplay or they're working on a screenplay.

1:02.0

So they're collaborating on the screenplay and the title is Friends.

1:07.0

It features a wealthy young man who murders his parents to inherit their fortune.

1:16.0

I'm not making this up. In 1988, Eric and his friend Craig were writing a script. Now, you know,

1:23.1

people write scripts, but anyways, it was a script specifically. So for the people who listened to

1:28.5

this episode is about a year ago-ish, I don't know, this podcast company reached out to me to

1:34.1

interview me about this case that was similar to this. And I ended up making, I think, an episode

1:38.7

about this, that a woman, I think in Portland, if I'm not mistaken, in Oregon. She was a fiction writer and had been convicted of murdering her husband and had previously

1:53.6

written a, you know, quote unquote fictional piece of how to murder your husband, essentially,

2:00.6

and get away with it. I think it was literally

2:02.2

called that. Oh, wow. And it's kind of like OJ's, if I did it. Well, no, because it was written before.

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