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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

The Psychology of the Menendez Bros (Chapter 4: Monster)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Dr Kirk and Humberto explore the Menendez Bros case.

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00:00 Pretrial
13:06 The trial & opening arguments
23:04 Dr. Oziel's testimony


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June 2, 2025

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0:00.0

Hey, deserving listeners, this is Chapter 4 in our deep dive on the Menendez brothers.

0:05.0

Umberto is leading this deep dive. He is going over the details and then asking me some very interesting questions about psychology and psychotherapy.

0:16.0

So, Berto, where did we leave off in Chapter 3?

0:20.0

Well, our brothers are in jail.

0:23.2

They have been arrested.

0:24.8

As we will recall, Lyle was arrested first, and Eric, although was out of the country,

0:32.5

he was playing tennis in Tel Aviv.

0:35.4

He was convinced to come back to the States and then he turned himself in.

0:38.7

So they are now arrested, awaiting trial.

0:42.3

Of course, these things do take time.

0:44.8

So this is where I think a lot of our confusion also stems from because even though the

0:49.8

murderers happened in August of 1989, the trial didn't start till 1993.

0:58.0

Wow.

0:58.5

Right.

0:58.8

So, okay, so between 1990 and 1992, the brothers are in jail, and they're awaiting all the, you

1:06.7

know, doing all the pre-trial motioning, finding lawyers, all these kinds of things.

1:12.3

They couldn't get out on bail or anything?

1:14.3

Nope.

1:14.9

Wow.

1:15.2

Not because probably the severity of the crime, maybe.

1:19.9

Yeah, maybe.

1:21.4

Okay, so a couple of things.

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