The Psychology of JonBenet Ramsey (Chap 6 - Final Word)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Dr Kirk Honda and Humberto Castaneda dive deep into the JonBenet Ramsey story.

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00:00 Grand jury results
12:07 Linda Hoffman-Pugh's book
31:07 Who does Humberto & Dr. Kirk think was the perpetrator?

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October 17, 2025

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0:00.0	Hey, to Zurn listeners, this is the final chapter in our deep dive on the psychology of
0:05.0	John Bonnet Ramsey, which includes the psychology of a lot of aspects of this story.
0:10.0	Take it away, Berdo.
0:12.0	Drum roll please.
0:14.0	Okay, so there was a grand jury convened for a year, you know, the grand jury convened for a year to decide what to do
0:22.3	about the case. Okay, so what we're going to watch here is the district attorney announcing
0:27.4	what's going to happen after the grand jury, again, spent about a year deliberating. No charges have
0:33.8	been filed. The grand jurors have done their work extraordinarily well, bringing to bear all of their
0:42.2	legal powers, life experiences, and shrewdness. Yet I must report to you that I and my prosecution
0:51.3	task force believe we do not have sufficient evidence
0:56.0	to warrant the filing of charges against anyone who has been investigated at this time.
1:04.0	Under Colorado law, the proceedings of the grand jury are secret.
1:09.0	Under no circumstances will I or any of my advisors, prosecutors,
1:15.6	the law enforcement officers working on this case or the grand jurors discuss grand jury proceedings
1:23.6	unless ordered by the court. Okay, so basically he's saying in a face that he likely
1:30.2	practiced in the mirror in the morning to look very serious and firm that there was not enough
1:37.2	evidence to point at any individual as a prosecutable perpetrator of the murder. And he's also announcing that none of us are
1:47.5	going to talk about what happened behind closed doors at a grand jury, which is normal. But you can
1:52.8	have jurors that will blab. Right. So after a year long grand jury investigation, the DA announced that the results of that investigation
2:03.1	lead him to not prosecute anyone. There was no trial. Okay. I mean, that makes sense, given
2:10.0	what you've told me so far. Right. Is that there's just not enough on anybody. Everything is so circumstantial. So even, because you know, you and I, we've been talking, we're talking about our theories and like, oh, I think this, I think that. But if a set of people that we were going to maybe listen to had access to all the police information, because we don't, right? Like, we don't have access. And they had time, like a year to, like, deliberate and things like that.
2:36.4	They're the ones we should maybe listen to. And if they're coming back saying, like, yeah, we don't know. That doesn't say that anyone's innocent. No, of course. Something did happen. Someone died. Having said that, the cops did flub it. We know that to some extent. Right. If any group of people had something that I might listen to
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