The Psycho-logic of Trump’s Tariffs (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)

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Nonzero

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🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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0:28 Paul is Bob's worthwhile Canadian initiative 4:34 The psycho-logic of Trump’s tariff strategy 15:35 Has Trump exposed structural flaws in America? 21:09 Is Musk saying Navarro is dumber than Ivanka? 28:09 On incest 38:35 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded April 09, 2025.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:27.5	Hello, Paul Bloom.
0:31.5	Hello, Robert Wright. How are you doing today?
0:34.7	I'm doing fine. You know who I am, Paul? I'm the editor-in-chief of Nonsor Newsletter. This is a Nod Zero podcast. You're Paul Bloom, world-famous Canadian psychologist. Hey, Paul, remember what the haters said when I first said? I wanted to do a regular podcast with a Canadian psychologist. Do you remember what the haters said? Remind me what the haters said.
0:54.8	Well, I shielded you from it, I think. I didn't know I had haters.
0:59.9	But what the what the haters said was, what could be more boring than a regular podcast with a Canadian psychologist, after all, is it not the case that the famous journalist, Michael Kinsley declared the headline
1:11.8	worthwhile Canadian initiative, the winner of a most boring headline contest. He did, and he is
1:20.3	great. But I would just like to say, who's laughing now, Paul Bloom, now that Trump, the Trump initiated tension with Canada, turned out to be a harbinger of Trump initiated tension with every nation in the world over this tariff thing.
1:37.1	And you're like hailed as a leading authority on Canada-related harbingers.
1:42.5	And I've got you locked into a long-term contract.
1:45.9	Who's laughing now, Paul Bloom?
1:49.7	Actually, it looks like you're laughing, but who else?
1:52.4	Yes, nobody.
1:53.7	I mean, a friend of mine described Canada as a new Ukraine.
1:58.1	Ukraine's very interesting.
1:59.7	We might be, you know.
2:00.6	Fascinating. A lot of content. We might be, you know, a lot of content.
2:03.2	Draw to analogy,
2:05.0	Ukraine, Canada,
2:07.6	Trump, sorry, Putin, Trump.
2:09.7	There you got it.
2:10.6	You got it.
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