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Robert Wright's Nonzero

The Real (And Fictional) Orson Welles (Robert Wright & Milton Lawson)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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0:28 Milton’s epic new comic, “Orson Welles: Warrior of the Worlds” 4:04 Comics culture, then and now 14:02 The real story behind the faux War of the Worlds broadcast 22:07 Why Milton was drawn to Orson Welles 33:33 What (or who) really derailed Welles’s career? 40:07 Will Milton's comic go multimedia? 44:23 Heading to Overtime—with Bob in the hot seat

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Milton Lawson (https://milton.substack.com/, Orson Welles: Warrior of the Worlds). Recorded March 24, 2025.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast.

0:29.4

Hello, Milton.

0:31.2

Hello, Bob.

0:32.4

How are you doing?

0:33.8

I'm doing pretty good.

0:34.8

How are you?

0:36.6

Couldn't be better. Let me introduce this. I'm Robert Wright, publisher with Nonsior Newsletter.

0:41.2

This is a Nons Zero podcast. You're Milton Lawson. And this is one of the more unusual podcasts I've done, I've got to say.

0:48.8

And it has one of the more elaborate backstories. Let me say for starters that you are an author of comic book slash graphic novels.

1:00.0

I gather from you, actually, that the distinction between the two is not as clear as some might

1:05.6

think among your past works. I was browsing around your website, which is what, Milton Lawson.com? Yeah. Is that right? And I saw, that's L-A-W-S-O-N, I saw one of your works, Thompson Heller, Detective Interstellar. There was a link to the Simon & Schuster website where I could find out more, and it said,

1:32.3

Thompson Heller, Detective Interstellar is a space noir about a private detective roaming the galaxy

1:38.1

solving cases steeped in moral intrigue.

1:42.1

Now, as cosmic as that may sound, think you're this thing we're going to

1:46.9

mainly talk about today uh called orson wells warrior of the worlds is even well is is in some sense

1:55.4

probably we're than thompson heller we'll get to that it's a a, it's based on a real person, Orson Wells,

2:04.4

who of course did this famous broadcast, War of the Worlds, which we'll talk about.

2:08.6

But the story itself is not just fictional, but like out there, like out there. I don't know.

2:16.4

Is it fantasy? Is it science fiction? What is this genre,

2:19.0

Milton? I would call it science fiction, maybe science fiction slash alternate history.

2:26.2

Mm-hmm. Definitely. Definitely. This is not the real history that is in this book. So,

2:31.8

now, backstory. So you used to work for me low these many years ago, I think starting in 2007 or something

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