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🗓️ 11 April 2025
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0:30 Sina's hopes for this weekend's US-Iran talks 4:25 Trump's two-month clock starts ticking 7:09 Iran's growing nuclear leverage 11:20 Trump the dealmaker vs Trump the warmonger 19:14 The myth of a "surgical" military campaign against Iran 28:44 The resurgence of Iran's reformist camp
Recorded April 11, 2025.
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0:31.0 | Hey, Sina, how you doing? |
0:32.9 | Hey, I'm doing well. |
0:39.5 | Well, thank you for coming on the show. Before we get started, why don't I introduce us? I am Connor Eccles, of course, the managing editor of Non Zero and the host of this show, which is Non Zero World, |
0:45.6 | the weekend edition of the Non Zero podcast. You, of course, are Sina 2C. You are a senior non-resident |
0:53.9 | fellow at the Center for International |
0:55.6 | Policy and a longtime expert and advocate in issues related to the Iran nuclear file, |
1:04.2 | Iran nuclear deal. Of course, that's very much in the news this week. And is, of course, |
1:08.8 | while you're, why you're here to talk to me today. As we know, |
1:12.7 | we're going to have the potential first round of negotiations between the U.S. and Iran, |
1:19.9 | maybe direct, maybe indirect, unclear, but that's going to be an Oman starting on Saturday. |
1:26.4 | And all of this, of course, comes amid a pretty drastic kind of |
1:31.1 | escalation in the past few months in the U.S.-Iran relationship that some people fear could |
1:37.5 | turn into war. So there's a lot to talk about. I want to get your take on that. I want to get |
1:41.8 | your take on especially kind of trying to get a sense of Iran's perspective coming into these talks and maybe even the Trump administration's perspective, because I'm not sure that's as clear as it could be. But to start, could you just kind of give a sense of what you would hope to see out of Saturday's talks, like what a good |
2:03.9 | outcome to set the ground would look like? Yeah, sure. First of all, it's a pleasure to be on. |
2:09.7 | Thank you so much for having me. These talks are, you know, really come at a critical juncture |
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