So are there some beliefs for you that are unhealthy in your relationships?

Are there some beliefs that, you know, addiction should only be led one way or should only be dealt with in one way?

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What kind of labels did you grow up with or what kind did you even put out there,

not knowing it might be received in a bad way?

I think about my husband who grew up in a very, very healthy home, loving home, and the children were involved. I mean, the type of home, literally that was like Little House on the Prairie, and after everybody finished dinner,

they all gathered around the living room and dad got his guitar out and sang with all the kids

and they played charades. And there was always a puzzle going on the dining room table, the main dining room table.

So to me, I looked at that as well so healthy.

But when we went through this ourselves and realized our marriage was in trouble and he'd had an affair and all that kind of stuff was coming up and

I thought what happened to this perfect husband you know and what came out was he was called a dumb

bunny by his dad on the farm his dad didn't say it in an angry way. He just, he stalled the tractor.

He's eight years old.

The tractor's a big tractor and it's got a clutch and it's got a break and he stalls it.

And his dad would say, oh, you little dumb bunny.

And then, you know, gets the wrong tool out of the shed, dumb bunny.

Well, see, the thing was though it wasn't done in an angry way, it was just a name,

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