The Power of Being Unreasonable

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Food, Arts, Society & Culture

4.8 • 8.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2022

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Dave calls up Will Guidara, the front-of-house half of the partnership that took Eleven Madison Park to the top of the hospitality stratosphere, to talk about Will’s new book (‘Unreasonable Hospitality’), how he reshaped EMP, and what the next generation of cutting-edge restaurants might look like. Also: coffee that tastes like soup, instant-ramen ratios, oomori servings, the fruit-medley gambit, macaroni ephemerality, waiting for grunge in the disco age, Jasper Johns, Danny Meyer, Bill Belichick, going hard in the paint, the Dreamweaver, rolling out the Budweiser cart, exceeding your mentors, Sean Brock, a croissant parable, and changing before you have to change. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Will Guidara Producer: Sasha Ashall Additional Production: Jordan Bass and Lala Rasor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	If you haven't signed up for a discord channel, please do so. We recently hit 10,000 followers,
0:05.2	9,000, which are bots, which means that we need, let me do the quick math here, 49,000 followers
0:13.4	to get to 50k to ensure that Christian still is gainfully employed. And I am not threatening. This
0:20.8	is part of the discord bylaws. The fact that you're counting out nine of the 10,000 that are
0:26.9	there to save my life already is hurtful. But we have a wonderful community. Yeah, sign up at
0:34.8	majordomamedia.com. There's some nice discount codes available for comment here. By the way,
0:40.7	I got some of the new single origin coffees from comment here. Some of the stuff that I tasted at
0:46.4	their Gloucester facilities. It's not coffee. If you get the single light roast,
0:53.1	are you a light roast man? That's my jam. I like the lighter roast stuff. It tastes savory. It tastes,
0:59.8	I don't even know. It tastes like soup. That's a selling point. But it is to me because it's not
1:08.0	like anything I've had before. It's their flavors that again, I like delicious coffee. I don't drink
1:15.4	enough of it in the past. I never really made it because quite frankly, I fucking hate coffee,
1:22.1	snobbery. And Chris knows that our coffee friends that are listening to this. I'm friends with many
1:27.2	of the roasters. It's something that I don't support. I just hate that it's like so much work.
1:32.8	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the strawberry of that.
1:36.5	You like the labor or with my friends that won't be named when they say like, oh my god,
1:42.0	look at that expression machine. I have to. It's like they're talking about a 1960 Ferrari GT or
1:49.2	something like what the fuck are you? You don't understand, David. You're right. I don't understand.
1:54.4	Anyway, we have a $25 code for comment here. Any day, unfortunately,
1:59.8	he's already sold out of this limited offer of the emerald green color. It's already gone. How
2:07.1	about that? How about that? How did I manage that? I don't know. By signing up for the discord.
2:11.7	And all things, Momofuku, there's a 10% off code at shop.momofuku.com for the air dry noodles,
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