Hi, I'm Susie Larson. Thank you for listening to Susie Larson Live. Faith Radio podcasts are only possible because of your support. So thanks black row is you glide.

Because walking just won't do dance.

You don't have to know how to ever since.

I've since me's got you late.

Welcome to Susie Larson Live.

Always so honored to get to spend this time with you.

I look forward to bringing you conversations every single

day that hopefully inspire you in your faith walk, that deepen your understanding of God's word,

and that heightens your awareness of his amazing and very real presence in your life.

I've always been intrigued by the power and the impact of leaders, both good leaders and bad leaders. I'm just

intrigued. Like when someone starts a business and builds it into something or someone plants a church,

you know, from nothing to something and those who lead well. I'm also intrigued by those who don't

lead well. I mean, you read the book First and Second Kings and it's absolutely amazing. And really

the power of the the people that are

influencing the leader that's intriguing to me as well but then you think about people who lead

because they fear god some lead in their own strength some look at people as a means to an end

and they step on people to get where they want to go. They're leading. They have influence,

but there's just collateral damage all around them. But others lead because they fear God.

And they consider the people that they lead a stewardship for which they will give accounts

someday. That intrigues me so much. So what if you were able to take an inside look at some of

the notable Christian leaders

of our day and learn from them? Leaders like Francis Chan, Johnny Erickson Tata, Mark Batterson,

...