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Hi, this is William Ramsey.

Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show.

I have a very special guest.

His name is John Brisson.

B-R-I-S-O-N.

He operates.

We've read the documents.

Definitely check out his research.

We've done tons of shows together.

He reached out to me and kind of wanted to follow up on stuff that I've already done and to talk about the plan and the externalization

externalization of hierarchy by Alice Bailey, something that I've wanted to read through, which I did

today. And also, uh, Marina Abramovich's brother, who I kind of did some research on, but we were

talking to pre-show. I didn't know how out there he was, but John can talk more about that. So John Brisson,

welcome back to the show. It's a pleasure

to be one of the great researchers

of all time and fellow brother in Christ, William Ramsey.

I listen to your show often.

Love the interviews and work as you do.

And I'm definitely glad. I mean, just a fall of show, a show that

we did discussing the World Future Society and Alice Bailey previous beforehand. And this is, I mean, you know, more, you know, more knowledge and information comes, the more that you research something and the more that you refined previous views that you've had earlier, which we've all done throughout our, you know,

our research careers. And, you know, it's interesting now with seeing all the chaos that's

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