On today's episode of the Real Foodology podcast. What you have to do to an almond to make a cookie that like even resembles half of like an actual cookie made with like real flour, you know?

So you just swapped out one version of processed foods for another version of processed foods that taste way worse.

When we could have just fixed the quality of the original foods, got them back to how they were before the sort of green revolution, all the agriculture chemicals. And then it would be delicious and it would be healthy.

And that's what traditional food is. That's why it's so amazing.

Hi, friends. Welcome back to another episode of the Real Foodology podcast. I'm your host, Courtney Swan.

Today's episode is a really, really fascinating one. It was really fun for me to record

because my guest, Stephen and I, we have very similar philosophies when it comes to our diets.

And he also explains a lot of these modern issues that we're dealing with right now with health

in a very relatable way. He really

makes it makes sense. He is the founder of Masa chips, which you guys will learn more about in the

episode, but basically he created these tortilla chips just out of organic corn, grass-fed beef tallow,

and salt. And let me tell you guys, these chips are incredible.

I'm going to eat one.

I'm going to give you guys a little chip ASMR.

Just so you can hear the crunch.

Oh my God.

This is how chips are supposed to be.'re crunchy they don't disintegrate when you dip them into guac

or whatever dips you want to be eating them with and they actually really taste good unlike a lot of

these other alternative foods and we talk about that so we get into swapping out more traditional foods for these like

quote unquote healthier, more processed foods. We dive into that. We talk about seed oils and why he

uses beef tallow instead of seed oils like most other tortilla chips, like pretty much every tortilla

chip on the shelf. besides his are made with

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