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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

The people of New Hampshire vs. Joe Biden

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Government, Politics

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

What do you do when you are one of the guardians of your state’s most precious political and cultural institution — the very thing that defines New Hampshire — and the president you love and the party you’ve served your whole life, tells you to destroy it? To find out, we spoke to Ray Buckley. Buckley has served as the chairman of the New Hampshire Democratic Party since 2007 and he was involved in every New Hampshire presidential primary campaign since he was an organizer for Jimmy Carter. A big part of his job is protecting the status of the New Hampshire primary, which by state law is required to be the first in the nation. Any Democrat who wants to be president makes a point of becoming Ray Buckley’s friend. When Buckley got a call in December from Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, the worst part was that it was Joe Biden who had screwed him. Biden had decided to end New Hampshire’s decades-long reign by hosting the first presidential primary — at least for the Democrats. In its place: South Carolina, the state that resurrected Biden’s candidacy in 2020. On this episode of Playbook Deep Dive, Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza speaks to Buckley about New Hampshire’s fight to preserve their first-in-the-nation primary. Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Ray Buckley is the chair of the New Hampshire Democratic Party.Afra Abdullah is an associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.Brook Hayes is a senior editor for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is the executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In December, Ray Buckley received a phone call with news of one of the worst portrayals

0:07.0

of his political career.

0:09.5

And he's been around a while, Buckley spent 18 years as a state legislator, and he served

0:14.5

as the chairman of the New Hampshire Democratic Party since 2007.

0:19.6

On his way up to that position, he was involved in every New Hampshire presidential primary

0:24.2

campaign since he was an organizer for Jimmy Carter.

0:28.8

A big part of his job is protecting the status of the New Hampshire primary, which by

0:36.1

state law is required to be the first in the nation.

0:40.2

In New Hampshire, the presidential primary is what beaches are to Florida or what bourbon

0:46.9

is to Kentucky.

0:48.5

It is the state's identity.

0:51.0

As a protector of that primary, Buckley is more often used to politicians sucking up

0:56.1

to him, not knifing him in the back.

0:59.9

Any Democrat who wants to be president makes a point of becoming Ray Buckley's friend,

1:05.9

and showering the state party with money and attention.

1:10.9

Joe Biden was no different.

1:13.0

Buckley first fell in love with Joe Biden, his words, in 1975.

1:17.8

Joe Biden was the first US Senator to support Jimmy Carter, so I fell in love with Joe

1:23.5

Biden in 1975.

1:26.2

When he came up in 1980 to campaign for then-Senator Durkins' re-election, I volunteered

1:33.7

to drive him.

1:34.8

More recently, when Biden was vice president and looking to woo New Hampshire's political

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