The Past, Present and Future of Sovereign Immunity
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 11 December 2020
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
This week, the Supreme Court returned once again to the complex and sometimes controversial Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, or FSIA, that protects foreign sovereigns from litigation before U.S. courts. At the same time, Congress is once again debating new exceptions to the protections provided by the FSIA on issues ranging from cybercrime to the coronavirus pandemic, an effort that may risk violating international law and exposing the United States to similar lawsuits overseas. To discuss these developments and where they may be headed, Scott R. Anderson sat down with two leading scholars on sovereign immunity issues: Chimène Keitner, a professor at the UC Hastings School of Law and a former counselor on international law at the U.S. State Department, and Ingrid Wuerth, a professor at Vanderbilt University Law School and one of the reporters for the American Law Institute's Fourth Restatement on U.S. foreign relations law.
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| 0:32.6 | Of course, the FSA in its statement of purpose indicates that its goal was to codify the restrictive |
| 0:42.9 | theory of foreign sovereign immunity under which a state's commercial activities are treated |
| 0:49.3 | as the activities of any other private party would be for jurisdictional purposes. |
| 0:56.3 | Although there's some debate about whether that restrictive theory really was, customary |
| 0:59.8 | international law in the 1970s, I think it's quite clear that it is today and maybe the |
| 1:05.2 | FSA even played some role in helping to catalyze that development. |
| 1:10.6 | These other exceptions and terrorism notably are not universally accepted as an appropriate |
| 1:18.5 | basis for one state to exercise jurisdiction over the acts of another state in its own |
| 1:23.6 | domestic courts. |
| 1:26.3 | I'm Scott Aranderson and this is the LawFair podcast for December 11, 2020. |
| 1:32.4 | This week the Supreme Court returned once again to the Complex and sometimes controversial |
| 1:37.0 | Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act or FSAIA that protects foreign sovereigns from litigation |
| 1:42.1 | before US courts. |
| 1:44.1 | At the same time, Congress is once again debating new exceptions to the protections provided |
| 1:48.4 | by the FSAIA on issues ranging from cybercrime to the coronavirus pandemic, an effort that |
| 1:53.8 | may risk violating international law and exposing the United States' dissimilar lawsuits overseas. |
| 2:00.2 | To discuss these developments and where they may be headed, I sat down with two leading |
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