I'm sure people remember that the Judiciary Committee served as something of a proven ground for

Booker Harris, Clovisher, all these people would end up, of course, running for president in 2020.

And we saw that again. You know, we're seeing that again now.

Yeah, like is it clear who's running for president from these hearings?

We're seeing Ted Cruz and Marsha Blackburn and Josh Holly. Well, it's like you could probably say

six people are running for president in these hearings.

Hello and welcome to the Supreme Court nomination hearing edition of the 538 Politics podcast.

I'm Galen Drew. Judge Kataji Brown Jackson's hearings marked the fourth Supreme Court

nomination hearings. We've covered in the six years we've been around as a podcast,

the Senate Judiciary Committee and 538 Legal Reporter Amelia Thompson DeVoe have been

very busy. By the way, Amelia, welcome to the podcast. How's it going?

I'm good. Thanks, Galen. How are you?

Pretty good. Pretty good. I've been watching the majority of the hearings in the background.

So, you know, we'll chat about them. They are wrapping up on Thursday and all indication is that

Jackson will be confirmed largely along partisan lines, although perhaps not exclusively,

we'll see she would be the first Black woman and first public defender to serve on the court.

Since Jackson's confirmation is the expected outcome, the hearings similar to past ones

took on a largely political significance. I should say for the record that we are recording this

at the end of the day on Wednesday, so if anything crazy has happened since then, maybe some

caveats apply, but in any case, we're going to talk about how the senators and how Jackson

herself approached the hearings. What political messages did senators send? And were we able

to glean anything about what kind of justice Jackson would be? So, first, as we suggested,

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