The “Pardon Me” Edition
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4.5 • 6K Ratings
🗓️ 29 March 2018
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Emily Bazelon, Jamelle Bouie, and Jack Hitt, co-host of Gimlet’s Uncivil, discuss the census citizenship question, Trump’s brewing legal trouble, and gerrymandering.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest, the Pardon Me edition for March 29th, 2018. |
| 0:14.4 | I'm Emily Bazelon. John and David are, I don't know where they are off on vacation, but who needs them anyway? |
| 0:21.6 | Because I'm here with two excellent guests, Jamel Bowie, who is the chief political correspondent for Slate. |
| 0:29.1 | Hey, Jamal. |
| 0:29.8 | Hello. |
| 0:30.9 | Hello. |
| 0:31.8 | And Jack Hitt, who is a co-host of Uncivil, Gimlet's amazing podcast about the hidden history of the Civil War, |
| 0:39.2 | which you should all go and download as soon as you finish listening to this show. |
| 0:43.0 | Hey, Jack. Thanks for joining us. |
| 0:44.3 | Hey, Emily. Hey, Jamil. |
| 0:45.8 | Okay. On this week's show, we are going to talk about three topics. |
| 0:50.0 | The Trump administration has a plan to add a question about citizenship to the 2020 census. |
| 0:55.7 | A bunch of states and civil rights groups are suing over this idea. |
| 0:59.4 | Why is this a very big deal? |
| 1:02.1 | Our second topic, the legal plot surrounding Donald Trump thickens. |
| 1:06.1 | I think maybe we could have that as like a tagline every week. |
| 1:08.9 | But this week in particular, the New York Times is reporting that Trump's erstwhile lawyer, John Dowd, dangled the possibility of a presidential pardon in front of former campaign manager Paul Manafort and national security advisor for a nanosecond Michael Flynn before they were indicted and in Flynn's case pled guilty. |
| 1:31.1 | So doubt isn't actually Trump's lawyer anymore. |
| 1:34.4 | Trump is looking for new lawyers. |
| 1:36.4 | So we can talk about how much we think that we should care about that. |
| 1:40.0 | And then finally, there is another whole legal subplot going on involving Stormy Daniels, her accusations that Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen paid her hush money, her efforts to get out of her non-disclosure agreement, and the entry into the story of her lawyer, Michael Avanotti, who is a kind of enjoyable character in this drama, which is |
| 2:02.0 | packed with too many characters. Okay. And then our third topic is the partisan gerrymandering |
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