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Hey folks, Rob Wolf here another edition of the Paleos Solution

podcast really excited for today's guest. Dr James D. Nickel Antonio is a

pharmacy at Farm D he is a Cardi D.

Antonio is a pharmacy, Farm D. He is a cardiovascular research specialist

and he's really fascinating at my perspective

in that he has tackled a topic which is salt and sodium intake in a way that has never really been done before and it seems to parallel a lot of what we've seen in the macro nutrient wars in the claims made around dietary

saturated fat and cholesterol and kind of some of the interesting

idea and then maybe starts off with an interesting idea

and then maybe gets picked up by a

charismatic individual and it becomes enshrined

in what we do on the the broader scale of both society

and within medical circles but Dr. D. Nickle Antonio thank you so much for being

on the show. Thanks for having me, Rob.

Hey, so I'm curious, how did you, again, like I, before we started recording, I mentioned that I had just a lot of questions and I want to set up some

background it's always interesting to understand a little bit about the the

folks that I'm talking to but how did this topic even get on your radar like it the the idea that we should eat less salt that sodium can negatively impact our health ranging from

cardiovascular disease to you know claims of increasing cancer rates how did you

even think to start looking at this? Yeah, that's an interesting question. So basically, I mean, I've never really kind of fully thought that the low salt device for everybody made much sense because I've always been athletic. I ran cross country in high school. I wrestled in high school and I knew that like my performance sucked if I didn't get enough salt and I knew that I

sweat it out salt I didn't really realize how much but you know from that basic

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