Hi friends and welcome to the papaya podcast. I'm your hostess, Try and Hermostis, Sarah Nicole,

and each week I'm going to be dishing out some sweetness mixed in with some seeds of wisdom

or something like that. So get ready to get inspired, get candid, get real, because we are all in this digital

space together. All right, everyone, welcome back. Yasmin Cheyenne, you were here on the show

years ago. I don't even remember what year. You're back now, which is so fun that you're back

because you're not just back. You're back with a book that is coming out, the comeback era.

I'm so excited to kind of get caught up about everything you're doing and hear more about this book.

So why don't you, first of all, catch me up. How did this book even happen? Oh, I'm so happy to be

back. So this book happened because I had finished writing my first two books, which the first was the sugar jar, which was really about boundaries. And then the second book was- I think that's the first time you're on the pod was for the sugar jar. Yeah, you're right. Okay. And so like after you set boundaries, you think, oh, everything in my life is going to be great. I'm going to have peace.

But what really happens is you lose people. People don't want to be around you anymore because you don't let them take advantage. And so I wanted to write a second book about, okay, now I've set the boundaries. How do I get the wisdom from those lessons and move forward. Once you get the boundaries and then you get

the wisdom, I hope that we move out of our messy, messy middle era into our comeback era. And so this

book is more so about really beginning to reckon with the fact that much of, many of us feel like,

okay, this is, this can't be all that life is. Like, I can't just be

getting up, hitting the floor, and doing the same thing every day. There has to be more than this.

And for those of us who are hitting midlife or in midlife, there is this sense that we're

running out of time. And I really wanted to talk to people who were worried or nervous about the fact that this might be the end and remind them that their dreams are still very much possible.

I found that turning 40 was not, I thought I was going to be so positive and so amazing about it.

And as I got closer to it,

I was like, why do I feel so uncomfortable? Like, why is this not, it's not just the number of it.

It's like the connotations of like feeling erased from society, from opportunity. What was it

going to look like? How was I going to look? How was how were people going to perceive me?

The parts about a lot of being a woman in society is like really platformed on certain stages of

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