Welcome to Our Paranormal Afterlife.

This is Our Paranormal Afterlife, and I'm your host, Simon Bown.

And did you know there is an Our Paranormal Afterlife Facebook group, and if you'd like to join,

you'd be very welcome. This week I'm talking to Susan Amstam about her book, NDE's Unveiled,

an insider's look into the mysteries of near-death experiences. Susan is business manager

at the International Association for Near Death Studies, and she's talked with thousands of

near-death experiences.

Hi, Susan, thanks a lot for coming on the podcast.

Oh my gosh, thank you, Simon, so much for inviting me. I really appreciate that.

So your book's called NDE's Unveiled, an insiderider's Look into the Mysteries of Near Death Experiences.

So what do you mean by an insider's look?

Well, because I work at the IN's office.

That's what I meant by that.

And I've gotten, I mean, I feel so blessed and grateful because I've gotten to talk to so many

different experiencers and not necessarily just near-death experiences, you know, people who have

had transcendent experiences or experiences. So yeah, I, that's, that's what I mean by the insiders look.

Yeah, because you say you've talked to thousands of people who've had near-death experiences.

And I'll just say for the listeners, when you say IANs, it's the International Association for Near-Death Studies.

Yes, it is.

We've been around for about 43 years and we got started as a nonprofit

organization because the five professionals who started us, they wanted to be able to publish

their research about near-death experiences. But at that time and that year, the universities were hands

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