This is exactly right.

I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about true crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator whose work some of America's most complicated cases

and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling true crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases through a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones.

Music Hey, Paul.

Hey, Kate. How are you?

I'm doing really well. We are at the end of January, and it's very, very cold, and it's probably 75 degrees here. It's so cold. I can't even... 75. Come on. No, it's a little colder than that, but we don't, you know, we don't get crazy cold weather. So I have a dream and you tell

me if it's a realistic dream or not, okay? Okay. I dream of having like a farm or a ranch or something

in New England with enough property so that I can snowmobile all across that property and travel everywhere on a snowmobile,

even to the little town that we'll be living outside of, which, you know, is to be determined

later on. Is that realistic? Or is snowmobiling a lot more complicated and impossible to,

are you going to kill my dream here?

No, in fact, I've never been on a snowmobile, so I have no personal experience on what's

possible or not.

You've never been on a snowmobile, really?

I've never have.

Do people not use those often in Colorado?

Again, this is going to kill my dream a little bit.

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