This is exactly right.

I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about true crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator whose work some of America's most complicated cases

and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling true crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases through a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones.

Music Hey, Paul.

Hey, Kate. What's going on with you?

Well, I have this case that I'm going to present to you that has a little story attached to it.

And I don't think I've told you this story yet. About five years ago or something when I had tenfold more wicked.

I had, you know, several people, a lot of people actually would email me and say, hey, do you want to do the story of that story? And there was a woman who said, I think you should look into

a story called the haystack murders, and I think you'll really like it. So I look up haystack murders,

and it points me towards what turned out to be my fourth book, you know, the sinners all

about Sarah Maria Cornell,

who was found hanging from a haystack pole.

This is different then because we did an episode that involved a male that died with haystacks that caught fire, right?

So that's a different.

You're right.

That's a different one.

Okay.

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