This is exactly right.

I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about true crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator whose work some of America's most complicated cases

and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling true crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases through a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones.

Music Hi, Kate, how are you today?

I'm well, Paul. I told you the most god-awful story, I think, last week, the Velisca Axe murders.

Have you been thinking about the offender, whoever did all of this horrible stuff?

You know, it is a horrific crime. And of course, you know, it's one of those things as I was

sitting down and saying, okay, we're going to be hearing more about this case.

I'm going through the details in my head going, who would do this, you know, and is it somebody I know early on?

I was thinking, you know, somebody close to the Moore family. Now I'm unsure about that.

Well, we've got some interesting suspects, but let me go through the case really quickly.

So it's 1912,

Valiska, Iowa. A prosperous, but small town, 2,500 people. We're looking at the Moore family.

You've got four kids, all of 11 and under, three boys and a girl. We have Sarah and Josiah. More, no enemies that we could tell. Everybody's

been murdered, including the two little girls who were sleeping in their guest room on the first

floor of their farmhouse. The 12-year-old appears to have been posed and sexually assaulted,

but we don't know 100% sure yet. There's some really weird things in the

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