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Lost Debate

The Mississippi Miracle

Lost Debate

The Branch

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6607 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

How did Mississippi — long seen as one of the worst states in America for education — become one of the fastest-improving in the country? In this episode, education reformer Rachel Canter joins Ravi Gupta to unpack the “Mississippi Miracle” — the controversial policies, hard choices, and cultural shifts that transformed student outcomes against all odds. They explore why Mississippi’s success challenges assumptions across the political spectrum — and what the rest of the country may be getting wrong about education. Ravi's recent piece on Hasan Piker Rachel Canter’s Atlantic piece and full report on the Mississippi Miracle ––––––– Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 201-305-0084⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Ravi at @RaviMGupta Notes from this episode are also available on Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/ Read more from Ravi on Substack: https://realravigupta.substack.com  Follow The Branch at @thebranchmedia Listen to more episodes of Lost Debate on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lost-debate/id1591300785 Listen to more episodes of Lost Debate on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7xR9pch9DrQDiZfGB5oF0F Listen to Where the Schools Went: https://thebranchmedia.org/show/where-the-schools-went/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And today I talk to

0:06.3

Rachel Cantor, who is an old friend of mine from Mississippi when I used to run charters down there.

0:12.6

She co-founded and ran an organization called Mississippi First, which did heroic work on a very slim

0:19.2

budget to turn around that state's educational trajectory

0:23.5

and to the point now where they're making Mississippi's been making national headlines is the

0:27.6

Mississippi miracle. And Rachel explains like what really was behind this Mississippi miracle,

0:32.4

what's truth, what's fiction, what's emphasized too much in the national debate, what's not

0:36.2

emphasized enough. and you will find

0:38.8

it really informative and probably really inspirational as well. But before we get there,

0:43.5

I wrote probably my longest sub-sac piece ever that I just put out this morning. It's called

0:49.3

The Party of Posers that is all about this interminable debate about Hassan Piker.

0:55.2

But I really, who's this sort of streamer, this dubbed a left-wing streamer.

1:00.2

I'm not sure he's actually left-wing.

1:02.0

And I zoom out and talk about why that debate matters and what meaning we could bring to it

1:08.3

and get quite candid about a lot of people who I've

1:12.4

worked with over the years. And so it is definitely a window into how I feel the Democratic Party

1:17.9

has drifted in the past few years. I think there in many ways there are parts of the party that

1:22.0

I think I've learned some lessons, really important lessons, and then there are moments like

1:26.3

the one we're in right now where I begin to wonder whether things are actually getting worse.

1:30.8

And so you could read that.

1:32.2

If you like it, give it a heart, follow me at Real Ravi Gupta.substack.com,

1:36.6

drop in a comment, whatever.

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