Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for political eclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And today I talk to

a old college friend, Dr. Justin Garcia, who is the executive director of the Kinsey Institute,

which is like, you know, you might have seen a movie about this, but is like the first and most

prominent higher ed institution that studies relationships and sex in America.

He's also the author of a wonderful new book that we talk about that's all about trends in

intimacy and sex. He also advises the Match group, the dating app company that has Tinder,

match.com, et cetera, and he puts out, or, you know, he's part of a team

that puts out a report every year on trends and dating and sex in America. So we talk about all

of those things. And so I think you're going to love this interview. A couple just random things

in my notebook right now. I saw this movie over the weekend called Obsession, which actually in some ways is on

topic. It's somewhat about dating. It's a horror movie. I'm not a big horror movie person,

but this movie was insane. It was both a very good movie and very disturbing movie, maybe the most

disturbing movie I've ever seen. It's up there with the audition. If any of you've seen

the Japanese movie, The Audition, and it might even be more disturbing than that. I won't say

too much about it other than what the premise is that you get in the first couple of minutes,

which is it's about this teenager who, you know, he gets this sort of trinket that is like a make a wish type of thing. And he

makes a wish that this girl that he really likes would love him more than anything in the world.

And the movie's all about the unintended consequences of that wish. And it is freaky. It was so

weird that and disturbing that when the movie was over, everybody in the theater

is just kind of sat there.

Nobody got up right away.

And so I recommend it.

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