Here's the deal, man.

When you come into a new industry, your goal right out the gate is not to get attention

or to prove yourself.

That's the goal eventually, but that's not what you're wanting to do initially.

Initially you want to observe the industry, understand what are the social dynamics, what

are the unspoken rules, and what are the skills that you need to develop to make

it in this industry? And then you go to work on building your skills. That's the first phase.

And then you graduate into the second phase, which is the longest phase of these three phases,

usually lasting over 10,000 hours of developing the skills. That's what a real expert is. You know, you got these

self-proclaimed experts on social media, like these personal branding experts that got 243 followers,

man. Like, get the hell out of here with that, man. You need to put in the time to develop

this skill. Welcome to the home service expert, where each week Tommy chats with world-class entrepreneurs

and experts in various fields, like marketing, sales, hiring, and leadership, to find out

what's really behind their success in business.

Now, your host, the Home Service Millionaire, Tommy Mello.

Welcome back to the Home Service expert. My name's Tommy Mello, and I'm here with Zachary

Babcock, and he specializes in entrepreneurship, personal development, marketing, and branding.

He's got a podcast. It's the Underdog Empower, and branding. He's got a podcast.

It's the underdog empowerment podcast.

He started in April of 2018.

And he's also got a podcast called The Penthouse Media Podcasts with Growth and Monetization

Specialists.

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