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War on the Rocks

The Meaning of Creeping Ukrainian Losses in the East

War on the Rocks

War on the Rocks

News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Michael Kofman popped into WOTR HQ to speak with Ryan about the war. They discussed territorial losses in the Donbas, the situation in Kursk, manpower challenges on both sides, and how Ukraine is seeing war termination on favorable terms. This episode also features a short preview of the most recent episode of Mike's members-only show, "The Russia Contingency," which featured an extended conversation with Mick Ryan, a retired Australian general and world-renowned expert on military affairs. Become a member to listen here: https://warontherocks.com/membership

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0:00.0

You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on strategy, defense, and foreign affairs.

0:14.0

My name is Ryan Evans, I'm the CEO and founder of War in the Rocks, and I'm sitting here with

0:17.9

Mike Kaufman of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and of course we're going to be talking

0:21.9

about the war in Ukraine.

0:23.6

Thanks so much for sitting down with me, Mike.

0:25.7

Happy to be back to talk to you around.

0:27.6

So let's do an update on the state of the front.

0:31.0

Let's start in the Donbass where I know Ukraine has actually lost some

0:34.8

valuable territory and what that means. Sure so I think last couple of months we've

0:40.7

probably been using and abusing the word dynamic to describe the

0:44.5

situation at the front. Happy to look for synonyms like fluid but suffice

0:48.2

it to say that it's been a changing situation week by week. So if we start in Dagnats, the Russian military has

0:56.4

been pushing Ukrainian forces steadily pressing them out positions from

1:01.0

Voolodar to Barcroft. A couple weeks ago they started focusing much more on the area south of Barcroft.

1:06.0

This is around Crohova and Voulodar. I think that town,

1:10.3

Voulodar is likely to fall fairly, and they've created a number of pockets or

1:14.8

cauldrons, if you like, and they're steadily pressing Ukrainian forces out of this area.

1:20.3

They've settled in outside of Park Coast.

1:22.4

Parkoque is now well within artillery range and artillery is hitting the eastern half of the city.

1:26.4

And that has been a significant transit hub, although that value is now very degraded.

1:31.2

That's right. I think its military value will steadily decrease, but I think we are going to see a siege of

1:35.5

Prokruff as we have seen play out for a number of other cities and I think more than likely

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