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🗓️ 19 September 2024
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Three sharp directors on the National Security Council staff invited Ryan over to the Eisenhower Executive Office Building to chat about the Icebreaker Collaboration Effort, or ICE Pact, which is a trilateral partnership between the United States, Canada, and Finland that's aimed at delivering the icebreakers America needs while also jump-starting U.S. competitiveness and power in shipbuilding overall.
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0:00.0 | You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on strategy, defense, and foreign affairs. |
0:13.9 | My name's Ryan Evans, I'm the founder of Warren the Rocks. |
0:16.4 | In this episode we're talking about ice breakers and how they might juice American |
0:20.1 | shipbuilding. |
0:21.1 | Here with me on this episode is William Hennigan, the National |
0:24.4 | Security Council Director for International Economics, Robert Obeda, the |
0:28.1 | NSC Director for Infrastructure and Investments, who's detailed from the Treasury |
0:32.0 | Department over to the National Security Council, |
0:34.4 | and Selina Laidga, the Director for Maritime and Arctic Security, detailed from the U.S. Coast Guard |
0:39.6 | where she's an officer. Hope you enjoy the show. Ice Pact is a trilateral agreement between the |
0:46.1 | United States, Finland, and Canada that we announced on the sidelines of the NATO |
0:49.7 | summit this year, which is essentially a partnership to build ice breakers together. |
0:55.0 | There are three components to it. |
0:56.8 | There is an agreement to share the information associated with building these ice breakers. |
1:01.6 | There is a second component to develop our |
1:04.3 | respective workforces and then there is a third component to funnel global |
1:08.8 | demand for those icebreakers into our three respective countries and the associated |
1:14.0 | shipyards. So I have a bunch of questions about this but starting why so I |
1:18.6 | get Canada I get Finland too I mean they're you know they have the high north |
1:22.1 | but there's other Nordic countries |
1:23.8 | with Arctic equities. Why Finland and not some of the other Scandinavian countries? |
1:28.1 | I think the it comes down to shipyards. The Helsinki shipyard in Finland is |
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