The Los Angeles Fires, Lettuce Cup Memories, and New York vs. L.A. With Jacob Soboroff

The Dave Chang Show

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Food, Society & Culture, Arts

4.8 • 8.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Dave is joined by Jacob Soboroff, MS Now senior correspondent and author of the book 'Firestorm.' Dave makes a lettuce cup dish that takes Jacob back to his past, and then they discuss the Los Angeles fires, which are the subject of Jacob's new book, as well as his personal experiences having grown up in the area. They finish with a MOIF comparing Los Angeles and New York in myriad ways. Get your copy of Firestorm by Jacob Soboroff: https://bookshop.org/p/books/firestorm-the-great-los-angeles-fires-and-america-s-new-age-of-disaster-jacob-soboroff/bd30f244fafba214 Check out Jacob Soboroff on social media: https://www.instagram.com/jacobsoboroff Get your copy of Separated by Jacob Soboroff: https://bookshop.org/p/books/separated-inside-an-american-tragedy-jacob-soboroff/392f1a291b04f998?ean=9780062992208&next=t Learn more about Why Tuesday?: https://whytuesday.org/ Learn more about the film 'Separated': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt33029968/ Learn more about Good Neighbor Bar: https://www.goodneighborbar.com/ Learn more about Watch Duty: https://www.watchduty.org/ Learn more about JPL: https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Learn more about Mr. Chow: https://www.mrchow.com/ Learn more about the short film 'Design for Disaster': https://www.imdb.com/title/tt35435044/ Learn more about Joans on Third: https://joansonthird.com/ Learn more about Spago: https://wolfgangpuck.com/restaurants/spago-beverly-hills/ Learn more about Anderson Cooper's podcast 'All There Is': https://open.spotify.com/show/4fm93OGs4upQbKv8hngvmH Learn more about 2nd Avenue Deli: https://2ndavedeli.com/ Learn more about Nate 'n Al’s: https://www.natenals.com/ Learn more about Langer’s: https://www.langersdeli.com/ Learn more about Katz’s Deli: https://katzsdelicatessen.com/ Learn more about The Strand: https://www.strandbooks.com/ Learn more about Skylight Books: https://www.skylightbooks.com/ Host: Dave Chang Guest: Jacob Soboroff Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Nikola Stanjevich, Michael Delgado, Dan McCoy, Michael Berger, Elizabeth Styles Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:42.1	Some fun, some food, it's all inside this happy meal.
0:48.3	Until the 2nd of February from 11am includes one pre-selected book or toy while stocks last. We have today Jacob Soberoff, a fantastic guest, journalist, author.
1:01.3	He wrote the book Firestorm about the terrible events that happened here in Los Angeles last year.
1:07.6	And I'm going to be making few dishes out of chicken, and you're going to see me
1:12.5	make a horrible, horrible decision when I tried to fry some noodles.
1:17.1	I was trying to be cool.
1:18.7	Never be cool, folks, especially a guy like me.
1:21.5	You're just going to fucking make a terrible mistake.
1:32.7	Thank you. day. So my guest today is Jacob Soberoff.
1:35.0	He is a journalist.
1:36.1	You see him on NBC.
1:37.4	MSNBC.
1:38.3	He's the New York Times bestselling author for Separated, an American tragedy, about
1:43.0	the border immigration crisis.
1:44.8	And he has just come out with a book called Firestorm.
1:48.1	It's about the fires here in Los Angeles and the Palisades and Altadena.
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