The Long Game: Rejection, Reinvention & Landing Reasonable Doubt [Replay]
Brown Ambition
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4.8 β’ 2.6K Ratings
ποΈ 11 March 2026
β±οΈ 69 minutes
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Summary
This week on Brown Ambition, Mandi sits down with award-winning producer, filmmaker, and breakout actress Kiah Clingman for a real conversation about rejection, reinvention, and trusting the long game.
From getting rejected by Howard’s theater program to becoming a proud Howard alum who quietly built a producing career… from balancing a demanding corporate job at Deloitte while producing projects at night… to not booking an acting role for four years before landing a major role on Reasonable Doubt on Hulu — Kiah’s story is a masterclass in patience, persistence, and betting on yourself when the timeline doesn’t make sense.
And the timing couldn’t be better. The hit series Reasonable Doubt recently took home Outstanding Drama Series at the 57th NAACP Image Awards (2026) — proof that the long road sometimes leads exactly where you’re meant to be.
From hotel-room self tapes to Hollywood sets, Kiah shares what it really looks like to build a creative career behind the scenes and in front of the camera.
If you’ve ever wondered whether you started too late, pivoted too many times, or took the “wrong” path this episode is for you.
Spoiler: you didn’t.
What We Get Into
- Why Kiah almost didn’t submit the audition that changed everything
- The reality of going years without booking acting work
- How a hotel-room self tape (trash can + ring light included) helped land Reasonable Doubt
- Being rejected from Howard’s theater program — and why it became a blessing
- How Howard University and Delta Sigma Theta shaped her identity and confidence
- Working a demanding corporate role while producing films on the side
- What producers actually do — and why the role is often misunderstood
- Quitting Deloitte two weeks after buying a home and the fear that followed
- Losing a series regular role after betting everything on acting
Key Takeaways
- Rejection can be redirection — even when it stings
- A pivot isn’t failure — it’s strategy
- You don’t need constant wins to be on the right path
- Corporate skills can help fund and strengthen creative dreams
- Seeds planted today may take years to bloom — and that’s okay
- Betting on yourself often feels reckless before it feels rewarding
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| 0:00.0 | So then fast forward, you know, five, ten years from Howard, where are you at in your career? And do you feel like you are doing baby Kaya proud in terms of like where you've ended up? My life is not, it doesn't necessarily look like what I thought it would. But I have so many people who message me or text me or reach out to me and they're just like, oh my gosh. Like I wish I could do this or how did you do this? |
| 0:21.7 | Or Kayah, you represent what we want to do in the Southeast as a filmmaker or even actors. |
| 0:28.1 | Like, you haven't an audition in four years and you're booking nine episodes? |
| 0:31.6 | How? |
| 0:32.4 | Every opportunity has come from a seed that I sold prior. |
| 0:35.7 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:39.1 | Guarante guaranteed human. |
| 0:46.3 | Hey, hey, VA fam. |
| 0:49.0 | I am so, so excited to welcome y'all back to the show. |
| 0:52.6 | I have an incredible guest here in the virtual studio today. |
| 0:56.0 | Her name is Kyah Klingman. And I got to be honest with y'all, this woman is the definition of Brown ambition in action, talking about a Howard grad, corporate |
| 1:02.9 | alum, and now an award-winning indie producer and breakout actress who is bringing deeply |
| 1:08.9 | human black, black-de-black-de-black, black-black stories to the |
| 1:12.8 | screen. She has been adopted by the city of Atlanta, yes, my beloved Atlanta, although she was |
| 1:18.6 | raised in Cincinnati and Kaya has built her own lane with her production studio, Kaya Can Productions. |
| 1:24.4 | She's also helped lead the Tribeca AT&T Untold Stories winning feature Colorbook |
| 1:30.2 | from pitch to festival darling while quietly stacking over two dozen producer credits across short |
| 1:36.2 | series and features. On top of that already crazy impressive resume, she's now stealing scenes |
| 1:42.2 | as Kristen in the Hulu Onyx collective legal drama, |
| 1:46.2 | Reasonable Doubt. Are y'all as obsessed with reasonable doubt as I have become because of |
| 1:50.3 | Kay's performance? Like, yes, I hope so. What I love about Kay and what we'll get into today is that |
| 1:56.6 | this was actually a role that she booked off an audition that she almost did not submit and has since turned her into a fan favorite for her role as the complicated ride or die sister to former child star Ozzie Edwards. |
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