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Germain, so excited to meet you, man, and to spend some time with you today. The team sent me over your bio,

and I think it was only, you know, four or five sentences long, but in your four and five sentences

of whoever wrote that to try to describe you, I feel like it perfectly matched what we're trying

to do here at Dad Tired to be men who are finding healing,

redemption, and then to show up a little bit more healed so we can be the leaders that our family needs us to be. And so anyway, when I saw your bio, I was like, I need to have a conversation with this guy. So before I ramble on too long, tell us who you are and what you're up to these days, bro. Hey, doing great.

Thanks for having me here. My name is Jermaine Wilson and I currently serve as a mission ambassador,

a prison fellowship. I am a proud father of five amazing children. I am also a grandpa and I'm just blessed to be here and thankful for the opportunity to be able to share my

story and to encourage and bring hope to the men and fathers across the world. Dang, man, you're a grandpa already. You don't look like you could be your grandpa. Already. You see, if you look real closely, you see those three gray hairs right there. Yeah, we'll get the 4K in. We'll zoom in there a little bit. dang man uh well congratulations on that you're in princeton fellowship we actually did uh another

podcast not too long ago with zoom in there a little bit. Dang man. Well, congratulations on that. You're in Princeton Fellowship. We actually

did another podcast not too long ago with one of the other guys from Prison Fellowship. Yes, sir.

And that was wonderful. I love what you guys are doing there. Why is that near and dear to your heart?

Because Prison Fellowship, the purpose is to be able to serve families, individuals who have been incarcerated, formerly incarcerated, but to bring families together.

We truly believe in holistic restoration, and I understand at times the bars can separate family members, but prison fellowship have figured out a way to be able to keep

families united that's, you know, that's separated by the bars. And they do that by bringing forth

angel tree to be able to be that bridge to serve the incarcerated parents and their families.

And also to let people know that your love, you're not forgotten, and God still got a

planning the purpose for everyone's life. And so that's why it holds a special place in And also to let people know that your love, you're not forgotten, and God still got a planning

purpose for everyone's life.

And so that's why it holds a special place in my heart.

But it also served me and my family during my time of incarceration.

When I felt like I was hopeless and didn't have a way to provide for my son, prison

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