The Jonathan Reynolds One
Political Thinking with Nick Robinson
BBC
4.6 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 30 April 2021
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
The Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary on Labour’s ‘vast’ challenge, having an autistic child and why he would like to run Sunderland FC
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts |
| 0:05.4 | Many former Labour supporters feel the party left them, long before they left it, the party |
| 0:12.2 | therefore cannot take for granted even the seats that it now holds. That is quite a conclusion |
| 0:19.2 | coming just a few days before a crucial set of elections. It is though the conclusion |
| 0:25.0 | of an influential group of Labour MPs in a new pamphlet called Hearts and Minds winning |
| 0:30.8 | the working class vote. One of those who wrote it is the man Kia Starmer chose to be in |
| 0:36.5 | charge of reforming the welfare system, Jonathan Reynolds. Jonathan? Or should I say Johnny? |
| 0:44.2 | Welcome to Political Thinking. Well, you can call me Johnny, but people may know, |
| 0:51.0 | everyone to be frank calls me Johnny, my wife, friends, colleagues and parliament, but |
| 0:56.4 | my mum, who will almost certainly be one of the listeners to this, hates Johnny. So in |
| 1:00.8 | print, I am always Jonathan in the house style of all major broadcasts. I have to be down |
| 1:06.7 | as Jonathan and the leg party press office has to put it out in that way, but I don't mind |
| 1:10.0 | you calling me Johnny, but in formal terms, I've always got to be Jonathan because everyone |
| 1:14.6 | just wants to make their mum proud and I'm no different. |
| 1:17.0 | Well, this is rather like me, which is my mother. Sometimes I'll always still call |
| 1:20.7 | me Nicholas. You say so. I can call you Johnny, but I risk upsetting your mum. That's |
| 1:25.7 | dangerous stuff, actually, isn't it? I've disclosed the full risk to you, Nick. So you've |
| 1:29.7 | got to make the decision yourself. No, we're talking as so often in recent months, |
| 1:35.4 | I've been talking to people down a video link. Have you just managed to begin to have |
| 1:41.3 | a glimpse of political normality? Got back on the campaign trail a bit on the odd doorstep, |
| 1:47.0 | a bit? Yes, that has been for politicians that the nicest change of the last few weeks. |
| 1:53.7 | So I've been able to get around my own constituency. I've been up to the Hartley Pool by election. |
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