It's the media buzz meter with Howard Kurtz.

Hey, a whole lot of news to cover today.

We'll get to the announcement that Jesse Jackson has died and also the passing of Robert Duval.

But I want to begin for the moment with TMZ,

not usually the lead story on this podcast,

and founder Harvey Levine,

who was on CNN yesterday,

and what he had to say about his contact

with this person who claims to know about the kidnapper or kidnappers, as you'll see in a moment.

And Levin acting in a absolutely restrained and journalistically responsible way.

Story number one.

So this has to do, of course, with the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie.

And for whatever reason, well, I know what the reason is.

The reason is the person who claims to have information on 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie's

disappearance, you know, how do we know he's even telling the truth?

Now he's sort of angling to get the FBI reward money. So the fact that he wants to be paid,

I think sort of undercuts the situation in any event. What I can tell you, Levin said, is the FBI

is really interested in this ransom note

and has been for many days now.

And without saying more, there's absolutely no doubt that they're spending a lot of time on this.

They're also interested in these four letters that we've been getting from this person.

And we know it's the same person because they keep putting the same Bitcoin address in saying he can lead them to Nancy and the kidnappers. I say

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