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The Lawfare Podcast

The Legacy of George Shultz with Nicholas Burns and Kori Schake

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2021

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

George Shultz passed away on February 6, just two months after passing his 100th birthday. He was a momentous and fascinating national security figure who has quite a legacy within national defense, foreign policy and even management circles in the federal government. To talk about his legacy and what made him such a special senior government leader, David Priess sat down with Ambassador Nicholas Burns and Kori Schake. Nick Burns is a man of many titles, including professor at the Kennedy School at Harvard University, building on almost three decades of U.S. government service, including a role as the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs from 2005 to 2008. Kori Schake is the director of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, coming after service in the National Security Council, the Department of Defense and the Department of State. They talked about about George Shultz, the positions he had, the influence he had on those around him and his influence on future administrations, both Republican and Democratic.

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no bull and the aftermath.

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I think George Schultz is going to go down in history as one of the great secretaries of

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state of the United States during the 20th century.

0:44.4

His achievements are quite substantial.

0:48.2

He was at the helm in the cockpit of global power as he used to call it in the State Department

0:55.0

at the end of the Cold War and he was very central to our negotiations with the Soviet Union.

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I'm David Pris and this is the LawFair podcast February 9, 2021.

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George Schultz passed away on February 6, just two months after passing his 100th birthday.

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He was a momentous and fascinating national security figure who has quite a legacy within

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national defense, foreign policy and even in management circles within the federal government.

1:28.3

To talk about his legacy and what made him such a special senior government leader, I

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asked Ambassador Nicholas Burns and Corey Shaki to join me.

1:38.3

Nick Burns is a man of many titles, including Professor at the Kennedy School at Harvard

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University, building on almost three decades of US government service, including a role

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as the Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs from 2005 to 2008.

1:55.1

Corey Shaki is the director of Foreign and Defense Policy Studies at the American Enterprise

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Institute, coming after service in the National Security Council staff, the Department of

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Defense and the Department of State.

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