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The Lawfare Podcast

An Update from Hong Kong

The Lawfare Podcast

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🗓️ 10 February 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

While we have been dealing with an insurrection in Washington, protestors in Hong Kong are being tried under the city's new Beijing-imposed national security law. For an update on what's going on in Hong Kong and in its relationship with China, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Sophia Yan, Beijing correspondent for The Telegraph in London, and Alvin Cheung, a postdoctoral fellow at McGill University and a non-resident affiliate scholar with NYU's U.S.-Asia Law Institute. They talked about how the national security law is being applied in Hong Kong, whether the protests are likely to reignite as the coronavirus epidemic fades and what activists are doing now that they do not know what Beijing will tolerate.

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0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:32.6

The fact that activists have just, they're leaving, right, and people are self-sensory.

0:38.9

I mean, these are two really obvious consequences of what has happened.

0:43.4

And this has happened for people who may be never even participated in the protest.

0:47.2

They're watching what they say.

0:48.8

They're not the ones who are going to be technically targeted if you think about what the

0:52.3

national security law says they shouldn't be the ones who are targeted, but they are so

0:55.3

worried about what this could mean for them that they are choosing to act differently.

1:01.9

I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast February 10th, 2021.

1:09.4

Yes we've had an insurrection in the United States.

1:13.8

Yes we've had an insurrection in Washington, but on the other side of the world in Hong

1:19.0

Kong, they are trying protesters under the city's new Beijing imposed national security

1:26.4

law.

1:27.6

We thought it was a good time for an update on what's going on in Hong Kong and in its

1:32.2

relationship with China.

1:34.5

So we are joined in the virtual jungle studio by Sophia Yan from Beijing.

1:41.3

Sophia is of course LawFair's pianist, but in her day job, she's the Beijing correspondent

1:46.8

for the telegraph from London.

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