Hey and welcome to the Learning Curb podcast.

I'm a co-host, Alicia Thomas Searcy, and joined by our other co-host, Dr. Albert, how is it going?

Hey, Albert, how is it going?

All right, Alicia.

I hope you're doing well today, too.

I am doing well, thanks.

I'm actually in the Georgia Mountains today, So it's a beautiful site out here and looking forward to an exciting and fun show today. Yeah, yeah. Nice bit of scenery to do a show, huh? Exactly. Exactly. And itching to get outside after this, I'm going to play golf today with some friends, so that should be fun.

Great.

Yes. Well, let's jump in. We've got, of course, some interesting stories for the week.

Would you like to go first?

Yeah, sure. You know, I want to give my shout-out to my colleague, Patrick Wolfe.

He's got a thought-provoking piece at Education Next entitled, Imagine There's No Politics, or Review of the Northern Report.

And it's a fascinating article.

You know, it's actually about IES, these two for educational sciences.

You know, the arm in the U.S. Department of the, that's done a lot of the data collection

for, golly,

I think where, you know, my history escapes me, but this is on the order of, use the word,

you know, centuries.

But as we talk about the role of the U.S. Department of VED and the role of federal government

education, you know, this piece is about the Institute of Education Sciences in particular.

And, you know, Pat has an interesting vantage point, I should say, because he's kind of been there

for several decades and seen this institute go through a lot of political change. It's aged over

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