The Latest Research On Ketones & Ketosis For Performance & Recovery, Do Ketones Break A Fast, Using Ketones For 45 Days Of Crossfit Murph, Ketone Esters vs. Ketone Salts & More With Geoffrey Woo of HVMN.

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Ben Greenfield

Education, Fitness, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 25 July 2020

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

It's time for a serious geek out on all things ketones, ketosis, ketone esters and more!

My guest on today's show, Geoffrey Woo, is co-founder and CEO of H.V.M.N. — Health via Modern Nutrition. He is also the host of the Health Via Modern Nutrition Podcast, a health & performance podcast that recently broke 4 million downloads. H.V.M.N. helped popularize ketones as a food group beyond fats, proteins, and carbohydrates and makes foods & supplements for metabolic performance and health.

H.V.M.N. fuels some of the world's top performers, athletes, and military service members. Geoff is an avid self-experimenter who’s done a 7 day water-only fast, inspired thousands under the COVID-19 lockdown to push themselves with positive challenges by completing the Crossfit Murph workout for 45 days in a row, and studies the optimization of human performance — at the individual scale, the team scale, the organization scale, and at the civilizational scale. He holds a BS with Honors and Distinction in Computer Science from Stanford University.

During our discussion, you'll discover:

-How Geoffrey used ketones esters while doing a Crossfit "Murph" for 45 consecutive days...5:45

-Why ketogenesis is not a physiologically typical state...13:00

-The role ketones play when it comes to recovery...16:15

-Pros and cons of endogenous and exogenous ketosis...24:18

-The difference between ketone esters and salts...35:15

-The ketone ester developed by the DARPA program...38:45

-Gold standard usage for dosage and frequency of ketone esters...44:45

-Whether or not ketones break a fast...53:35

-How a process called lactalation enhances the expression of longevity genes...57:11

-Parallels between lactate and ketones...1:02:15

-Stacking sodium bicarbonate w/ ketone esters pre-workout...1:07:15

-Ketones used in place of alcohol in cocktails...1:10:15

Transcript

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0:00.0	On this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast, it does look like that a lot of
0:07.0	the longevity reasons why people do intermittent fasting are doubled down through exogenous
0:13.8	ketones.
0:15.1	They seem to have some central nervous system effect that isn't yet studied in the academic
0:21.9	or the clinic just yet.
0:23.4	When you have ketones stacked with availability of protein and carbohydrate, that's where you
0:27.4	see the divergence between endogenous ketosis and exogenous ketosis.
0:32.9	Health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking, and much more.
0:43.2	My name is Ben Greenfield.
0:45.3	Welcome to the show.
0:46.5	Alright, keto freaks.
0:53.7	Before people wanted to know more about ketones, ketone esters, ketone salts, got Jeffrey
0:57.1	Wu on the podcast today.
0:58.8	This cat is super smart.
1:00.0	We had a ton of fun geeking out on all things keto.
1:04.8	Now as a part of, of course, the fat loss and the metabolic efficiency that can often
1:10.2	accompany a ketogenic diet, another real cool trick is cold thermogenesis, cold thermogenesis.
1:16.9	And it just so happens conveniently enough that on August 3rd, which is coming up very
1:22.1	soon, we are starting a cold thermogenesis challenge at Keon.
1:26.6	We're providing you with all of the support, exclusive content on how to set up cold exposure
1:31.5	practices, no matter where you live, access to a bunch of video content from cold thermogenesis
1:36.5	experts, a chance to enter an epit-giveaway with premium cold thermogenesis gear.
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