I have your self-ones go off either.

I have another more self-less region for you guys not to put not to have your

cell phones go off either we are recording my podcast the Chuck Todd

cast here live at the New York Historical Society because I don't want to make

McKay Copp Hopkins do this twice.

We're all about efficiencies here these days.

I'm just going to start out gushing.

I couldn't put it down. I could not put this down,

but can. As somebody who has, who, it sort of struck me as I'm reading it, I met

Romney's entire political career. I covered in my entire

professional life myself going back to that 94 race. Maybe the funniest

SNL advertising skit ever was a fake Romney ad and a fake Kennedy ad.

I encourage people to go Google and have a little fun with that.

But let's start with how you got this material because what made this book so easy to read and so fascinating is I feel as if this was Mitt Romney's inner dialogue for everything he was thinking about.

When he ran for the Senate 94,

when he was governor of Massachusetts,

when he ran for president, when he dealt with Trump,

all of those things, you got amazing access to describe how it happened

Yeah, well first of all thank you and thank you to the

New York Historical Society for inviting us. So I approached Mitt in really just the weeks

after January 6th of 2021.

And I had been covering him for 10 years by that point and I don't go back as far as you do but I

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