I'm just a simple, I'm just a simple grizzled man, and I gotta get across the country with this little girl.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, it's hard being a dad.

Anywho, how's it going over there?

How you doing, little girl?

I gotta be Ellie?

How you doing, little girl?

How's it going, little girl?

Things are all right, I guess.

I love my friends and being snarky and being genetically resistant to the plague that destroyed humanity. But oops.

Ah, you wouldn't understand. You're just a little girl. Anyways, let me go wrangle. Let me go murder these zombies over here. I'm sorry, clickers. Listen, do you need me to collect a health pack or not, all right? Do you need the fucking health pack or not, old man? I just want to get fucking drunk. Oh, this sucks. Going across the country. Oh, that way. Having a terrible time. Bruiser, Holden McNeely. I wanted to be Joel for a second. Okay, you be Joel. You be Joel. I'm kind of butchering it. A little bit of a southern drawl. It sounds like I smoked, but like only a little. And I'm definitely not just what a very handsome man in his 20s thinks a grizzled old man sounds like. Beautiful stuff. And of course today we are... Wizard. Wizard, Jake. There. I remembered. People have been calling us out online that we keep forgetting. Yes. Okay. There you go. Good. Yeah, yeah. We're getting... You know, we've been into our years and our cups with this show.

So it's, it's, you know, we forget sometimes to actually call ourselves a bruiser and a wizard.

But very excited today to talk about the, excited!

Is that the word?

No, holding.

Holden, holden, let me tell you, let me just get right off the bat.

We're covering the last of us, the naughty dog,, Sony, uh, first party, AAA zombie dystopian, yet oddly hopeful, then really not hopeful, then kind of hopeful, uh,

story. And it's, uh, it's journey, it's predominance in the cultural landscape. And, uh,

let me tell you, let me tell you, uh, it's,

it's bad. It's bad. I don't know, or sorry, qualitatively, qualitatively, it's great.

Experientially, Holden, I'm miserable enough, okay? I am already sad and world weary and, and, and just absolutely bombarded with guilt and just like existential dread and all I want to do is play a video game hold and I just want to play a fun video game and I want to shoot guys in the brain and I want like points to go up and I don't need to like watch the life

leave a man's eyes as his friends go like Jerry no they got Jerry his daughter was going

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