Welcome back to Hot Takes and Deep Dives. This is Jess and I am thrilled to be here with Damian

Bellino and Ann Roadman. Now, you might know them from their podcast. You might know her from

where the entire conceit of the podcast is you interview character actresses. Totally.

That's it. Thank you for that lovely lead and really nice wink there. Yeah, that's what we

did. We shoot the shoot with each other and then we try to interview like an under-appreciated

actressy episode. Were you doing that podcast when we recorded last? I think so because you were like,

how did you, because I had interviewed, we had interviewed Cepi Muafi and then you were like,

also, can we talk about Gwyn of your turner and I was like, yes, and then I was like, I can't

and you were like, this is really deep. And then we went on a long conversation about Gwyn

of the year. So, literally the episode that just came out is with Laurel Holloman. Could not be

more relevant because welcome to the L Word Deep Dive podcast. I absolutely love the interview

with Laurel. I actually interviewed her a decade ago. What? A decade ago, because I was a writer for

Auto Struggle. Oh my god. I must have known this. I must have known this. Okay, wow. So, I interviewed

like Jennifer Beale's, like, those were the only two I think from the L Word. Me? Oh, you know,

who I interviewed? Oh, this is. She needed a govincar. No. I love Poppy. This is low-key iconic.

I interviewed Camilla Gray. Wait, as I was interviewing her, the news was breaking that her

and Lisa got kicked off the plane and that they were in a relationship. I end the interview

and it's all over the news. So, like, I missed this. I could like, broken the story or got in the

first quote and like, the universe didn't align. I'm so sorry. It was literally that day.

Oh, that's South West flight. They were like kissing. They got kicked off. It was like a morality

clause. I had no idea they were together. I saw them, I saw them like at the Bowery Ballroom in

Ah-ha-ha. I was like, I remember that got into bands based on like lesbian actresses that were in

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