Welcome back to Hot Takes and Deep Dives.

This is Jess and listen, she's the guide, she's the truth teller, she's the one we all want

to be our mom.

Hi to Rinda Medley.

Oh, that is the best compliment you could ever give me.

You know, people say that to Hannah all the time, they're like, when we're out and about

or we'll be somewhere, you know, shopping and stuff, they're like, oh my god, you have

the coolest mom.

She's like, who?

I mean, Hannah, Hannah doesn't look at me as anything other than mom, right?

You know, I loved your book, make it nice, she cooked, she decorated, she made it nice.

And so I'm an auditory learner, I've always been an auditory learner.

So I'm a big audio book listener.

So of course, I naturally, I listen to your audio book, so I heard you read the whole thing

to me.

I'm so important to do it in my voice because one of the things the premises of the book

when I started it is I thought, how, like, you know, I'm not a writer.

So let's not try to be with I'm not, right?

So how do I want people to receive this?

I want to pretend like they met me somewhere.

I sat down in a living room and they said, tell me about yourself.

So I wanted it to be as if I was talking to you at a cocktail party.

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