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Hello, my friend, and welcome to another

episode of Negotiate Anything. Thanks for spending time with us today. It's listeners like you in

181 different countries that have made Negotiate Anything the most popular negotiation and conflict

resolution podcast in the world. I'm your host,

Kwame Christian. I'm a business lawyer, mediator, professor, and the director of the American

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Lisa, thanks for joining us today.

Thank you so much. I'm glad to be here.

Yeah, when we are glad to have you, my friend. So how would you get us started by telling us a little

bit about yourself and what you do? Okay. So I am a general counsel for a public university in

Kentucky. It is Kentucky State University and I have been here for three years.

Nice, very nice. And before that, what was your legal career like? So prior to coming to Kentucky State

University, I've had a very diverse career. I started out first as a paralegal.

I was in the military, and then when I got out, I became a civilian paralegal, went to law school at night,

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