Hey friends, welcome to the Rhythms for Life podcast, where each week we talk about four rhythms that help you reduce stress and anxiety and take charge of your emotional health.

Rest, restore, connect, create.

I'm Rebecca, and I'm Gabe, and today we're talking about the rhythm of connect.

Yes, John Townsend has been a household name for many of you, whether or not you're aware of it,

if you've read the book Boundaries it sold millions of

copies he is on today's episode and we're real excited because he had a new book

come out this year called People Fuel and so I sit down with him and talk about all the things related to toxic

relationships and life-giving relationships. I know he really goes into toxic

relationships which you don't often hear people talking about it's all about how do we make

relationships better well he starts to draw boundaries around what do you do when

somebody in your life is toxic how do you avoid that how do you work through it in a

healthy way now you and I's relationship is not toxic

but we did work on our relationship this weekend how you like that segue I mean we got to

spend the weekend together with several other couples kind of working through our marriage.

I'm sure for every honest buried person there's probably been a toxic moment in conflict that we have all had.

It's more about what do we do with that, how do we come back

from that, how do we repent or apologize for that, and figure out the things

deep down that make things come out as toxic. There's always a story behind the story, the

places of pain or the places of hurt that we hold on to and I think that's one

thing that Gabe and I have had to learn you know through a through a lot of intention is like, what are we holding

on to that we may have said, I forgive you a year ago, but yet somehow in a fight, it still

seems to surface in an indirect way.

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