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Hey, Happiness Lab listeners.

I hope this summer is treating you well and that you're taking

some time off to rest and recover. I've been on a bit of a vacay myself, but the team and I will

soon be back at work, preparing the next season of this show. We'll be sending you back to school

Happiness Lab style as I review some of the must-read psychology books of the year. So stay tuned

for lots of well-being wisdom

coming your way this September, but I won't be abandoning you until then. Over the next few

weeks, I'll be sharing some episodes from other podcasts, and the common thread is that I appear as a

guest in all of them. First on the list, The Daily Stoic. Brian Holliday's hit show is all about

what the ancient Stoic philosophers

can teach us about living better today. I was invited on the show to talk about death, but don't

let that topic scare you, because as you'll hear, my conversation with Ryan was actually kind of fun.

If you like what you hear, you should check out the Daily Stoic, wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic podcast. I was swimming in

Barton Springs yesterday, and I'm swimming. I kind of see this movement. It's like a weird thing

with Barton Springs where, you know, there's, like, huge fish in there.

And you know there's turtles that you don't see them as much, not as much as like Balmorae or whatever, but I see this sort of soft-shelled turtle just start to head up to the surface.

And then just like, takes off like a rock.

And it almost hits me.

It was dodging turtles, surfacing turtles from the depths of Barton Springs. And I just, and it almost hits me. It was dodging turtles, surfacing turtles from the depths of

Barton Springs. And I just, I was like, ah, man, life is absurd and life is good. Even just like

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