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The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Anyone Can Play, Anyone Can Win (Cornholing with Michelle Hastie Thompson)

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.714.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

How do you put your life back together after your home and your neighborhood's been destroyed in a wildfire? By tossing beanbags at a hole? That's what Michelle Hastie Thompson did. 

Michelle ("Cornhole Mich") loves the backyard game of cornholing - and uses it to help her relax, share time with her loved ones, and meet new people. So what can cornholing teach Dr Laurie about happiness?

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.7

The destruction is nearly incomprehensible unless you see it for yourself.

0:10.8

I found that my house was gone, as well as every house on my block.

0:17.1

How could this have happened?

0:19.6

And where do we go from here? L.A. is rebuilding. There is no doubt about that. Less clear is how.

0:28.0

We know the faster we can rebuild, the faster we can heal.

0:33.0

There are kind of two separate conversations at a high level that I don't think we're having that we could

0:38.8

have in this rush to kind of build things back as they were.

0:43.6

I'm Kate Kagle, host of the new podcast, Rebuilding L.A. from L.A. Times Studios.

0:49.8

We will try to answer some of these questions as we assess the path forward.

0:56.3

Rebuilding L.A. launches June 11th. Find it wherever you get your podcasts. Pushkin.

1:17.4

In Northern California, fires are very common.

1:22.5

This is psychology PhD student, Michelle Hastie Thompson.

1:26.2

And so when I heard that there was a fire, it didn't seem that close.

1:30.3

And so it was nothing that caused me any concern.

1:32.3

It's like, oh, okay, another fire, whatever.

1:35.3

That's what we do here.

1:36.3

But Michelle's calm attitude on that fateful November morning in 2018 wouldn't last.

1:41.3

She was getting her son Broem ready for his usual daycare drop-off when she noticed

1:45.2

that the sky was a bit darker than usual. With her husband already at work on the other side of

1:50.3

town, Michelle called to compare notes and figure out how concerned they should be. You know, do I need to

1:55.8

evacuate? Is this serious? He said, no, I'm on my way to you. You stay there. The fire's on

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